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[edit] Essjay quote

I didn't want to reply to your comment on Essjay's talk page because I felt it deserved to stand by itself unmolested. I just wanted to say that on more than one occassion over the last few days I've thought about that quote of Essjay's and have wished he'd simply followed his own advice. Cheers, —Doug Bell talk 01:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

This is all too true, but it doesn't make the quote any less profound or applicable. ^demon[omg plz] 01:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Probably so, although there is often a contradiction between "better", "happier" and "more firendly". Sometimes, the process of making something better does not make it happier, and vice versa—particularly when considered only in the short term. While the Essjay affair has certainly done nothing to make Wikipedia happier or more friendly, at least not today, I do hope it has served to make it better, at least for tomorrow. —Doug Bell talk 03:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:MediationBot

I've temporarily unblocked this bot account, as your statement suggests that the project is being adversley affected by this block. We can not have bot's running without accountable operators though. I plan on reblocking this bot in 10 days if an owner is not established as having control of the account. This can be done by having the bot log in and edit it's page to reflect the new operator. (Or the old operator can return). Essjay specificaly stated that his bots "will no longer be running." and "My tools will be taken down shortly" so this unblocking may not start the bot back up. We have been speedily approving activation or trials of bots to replace Essjay's bot at WP:RFBOT, you may request a new bot there. Let me know if you have any other needs. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 01:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, then I'm reblocking the old account. See my note at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MediationBot1 though, about gettnig the old name. — xaosflux Talk 01:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paytakaran

I don't understand why you would want to delete evidence that non-admins need to use for the ArbCom. Why would this charter say this? Do you mind if I recreate it in my userpace at least? Khoikhoi 06:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Cases

Hi ^demon. I was wondering why there haven't been any new cases added for mediation recently. Does it have something to do with the bot, or what? Regards. --דניאל - Danielrocks123 contribs 21:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the reply. --דניאל - Danielrocks123 contribs 00:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi ^demon - I just felt I'd better note that the bot has automatically deleted the category you added earlier. I'll change the code of the bot at the weekend (or later) to allow that category to be included. Martinp23 22:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sulla mediation

Understood about the limitation of the mediation committee's remit. Thanks for the interest. I'm not interested enough in Sulla to research and source corrections myself, I am however interested in NPOV and compromise. Cheers Vincent 01:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for accepting the case. I have a few questions.

  • What is the next step?
  • Who is the mediator? Are you the mediator or will you find a mediator or must we find a mediator?
  • Where and how does the debate happen? On the Rfm page? On the target talk page? On the mediator's talk page? Via email? All of the above?

I am very tempted to revert immediately Sulla16's last edit, but I'll hold off a few days to give the process a chance. Cheers, Vincent 02:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Socialism Mediation

Hi,

A number of editors were discussing this mediation and its scope on the discussion page, and one editor Timeshifter, wanted to be removed from the mediation list. Before I had a chance to do this, the mediation was closed, even though a number of editors on several sides of the issue wanted to move forward. Simply be de-referencing one page and trimming the list of editors, this mediation could have been very constructive. I realize what you did was technically correct, but now what is the next step for those of us who still wat a mediation? If we trim down the range of pages and issues, can we open up another mediation request? Thanks. --Cberlet 14:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inbox Alert

Good evening (GMT time); when you've got a spare minute, would you mind checking your Inbox? Thanks, and hope you're well.

anthonycfc [talk] 21:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your bot

Hey. Your bot is subst'ing templates that are actually un-substitutable, e.g. [1]. Matthew 18:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. It certainly shouldn't have been created, I can't see any benefit from it :-\, anyhow, cheers for fixing it :-). Matthew 18:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Combining TFD nominations

Do you mind combining your template nominations here? Due to WP:MULTI, it's best to not have discussion about very similar topics in the same place. GracenotesT § 19:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot error

Demonbot2 was replacing a lot of {{cleanup-date}} tags with {{cleanup|date=}}, which doesn't work. Can this be undone by the bot? Or should we change the cleanup template to take a date= argument (currently, it takes an argument, but it works like {{cleanup|February 2007}})? Mangojuicetalk 01:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] From Ep TFD

  • Delete per copyvio, name of template, un-needed server strain, etc. I was bold and went ahead and subst'd all the instances of it. Apparently you can't just substitute the template...reverting my bot's edits... ^demon[omg plz] 18:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

You may find the Special:ExpandTemplates interface useful for "substing" templates that get like that. --Random832 13:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Committee Question

Hi! Last month, I attempted to join the committee, but was found not to be experienced enough. Essjay invited me to volunteer for cases "when you (me) see the backlog tag go up." Consequently, I either do not patrol the page enough or you folks are very efficient, because I've never actually seen the flag! :) With this in mind, along with the recent dust-up over Essjay:

  1. Can I still volunteer for cases?
  2. If so, at what point is it appropriate for me to volunteer?

Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. --SilverhandTalk 18:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:CURRENTHOUR

Yeah, I figured out that {{#time:}} had superseded that type of template, and put a deprecated tag there afterwards. Thanks for linking to the discussion, however. :3 Blast 30.03.07 0628 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Lucius_Cornelius_Sulla

Might have to halt the progress there. See this. I think that you may want to comment on it. - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 01:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation for WP:PDD

Hey demon, I'm getting kinda impatient with the mediation for Wikiproject Psychedelics. It's been more than a week now, and no moderator has been assigned yet! When can I expect the mediation to get underway? Thanks! Jolb 03:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi. I commented on your biases :-D.

PS: good luck in your RFA run. Orane (talkcont.) 03:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Your My RFM

Thanks for noting that; I wasn't sure of the proper procedure. It's a shame it collapsed, really, but they were not willing to continue. —Xyrael / 07:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medcom caseload

Hi ^demon. Ive just about finished most of those mediations, though some might require follow up. Ill take the finished ones off the list. -Stevertigo 08:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prince Henry the Navigator article

I think someone needs to get involved in the nasty arguments, most quite incorrect, of one "Dr. Lisboa" re the article on Prince Henry the Navigator discussion page. His discussion points are almost totally wrong, he refuses to acknowledge the fact, and continues to insult those who correct him. I have not the patience to initiate a formal mediation process. But I will say that with contributors like Dr. Lisboa at work, you will never get a decent article on Prince Henry.

[edit] Auto-updating user/admin stats

I took the liberty of modifying your quote from me to incorporate the original's source code, to keep the numbers current, rather than keep them as they were at the moment of copy-and-paste. It's amazing how fast the numbers change, and therefore how fast they'd become outdated if we didn't auto-update. I'm glad you find those stats inspiring; so do I. -- BenTALK/HIST 00:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closed case

No I havent. Thats new technology to me. -Stevertigo 02:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your Question on my RFA

That is a very valid question that, to be honest, hadn't crossed my mind before. As I said on the question itself:

I had planned on remaining the chair, regardless of how this RfA turns out. I hadn't seen any potential conflicts of interest in being either chair or admin, so I honestly hadn't thought too heavily on this. I do understand that there are situations in which serving in one capacity would make serving in another a potential issue (serving on ArbCom/MedCom comes immediately to mind). However, as most chairs of the committee have been admins while chair, I don't see any reason why I could not do the same. However, if there is some potential issue that you see with this that I'm overlooking, please bring it to my attention.

Do you see a potential conflict of interest? I'm very curious, as this question now has me thinking about that quite a bit.

Regards ^demon[omg plz] 08:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I can imagine possible conflicts of interest but not any likely one. Your RfA is going to pass by a sizable margin so this is somewhat moot. I could see people going either way on your answer. That is, if you say you'd stay some people might be concerned about conflicts; if you say you're going to step down some people might be concerned about loosing a good chair. I wanted !voters to have as much information as possible.
I do think that there are many new editors who, right or wrong, view admins as moderators. Your admining may put you in the other group, but again this can be fixed with a little awareness on your part that you are doing two jobs. I'm sure you'll be able to balance the two roles. Good luck. -- Selket Talk 14:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XfD Barnstar

The XfD Barnstar
For your contributions to the TfD process, I award you the XfD barnstar. Keep going this way and good luck for the Rfa! Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 22:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question about your 'bot

BACKGROUND: I proposed Template:Youth Empowerment for deletion, since it was set up to include an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink collection of articles with only a slender thread of connection to the topic. The template's creator refined the template, leading to a decision to retain it. The template itself may have been refined, but it is still displayed on many pages where it looks pretty silly. (See Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Youth_Empowerment&limit=100&from=0.) I removed it from a few articles, but I was thinking that if the person who created the template didn't do that task, it ought to be done by a 'bot. User:John Reaves referred me to you, due to your 'bot.

QUESTION: Can your 'bot that can clean up the irrelevant links to this template, keeping the links in articles that are still included in the template?
--orlady 14:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's the TfD link that you requested over on my Talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_March_14#Template:Youth_Empowerment
My general notion is, as you inferred, to just make sure the template is only on the pages that are listed in the template, but no others. (I don't think it belongs on a few of the pages -- i.e., those for broader topics -- that are listed in the template, either, but that's a minor issue.) --orlady 04:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arlen Ness

Hi, my name is Mitch. I have recently started my first wiki article, Arlen Ness, for a school project and I have a question for ^demonBot2. I've been working on this article and it's still marked for clean up. Do you have suggestions to help me clean up my page? It would be much apprieciated, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mphoss (talkcontribs) 00:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] move user talk?

I noticed a recently registered user, user:Wedudley, has moved his user talk [2] to another page. Is this admissible? In case it helps: The user is editing only William E. Dudley, of which he appears to be the subject. The article is currently on AfD, nominated by me. Couldn't find anything on WP:USER referring to this, but the move (and the new name) seem a bit weird. —KNcyu38 (talkcontribs) 04:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I suppose if there's no problem with it policy-wise, I'll just leave it. My primary concern was to save the user further trouble. —KNcyu38 (talkcontribs) 22:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rfa

I have some advice for you. Someone who failed a Rfa got many people opposing him because he was answering the oppose votes. I would hate to see you fail your Rfa because you are a fine editor. I suggest that you do not answer but let others defend you. Peace:) --James, La gloria è a dio 01:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TVep

ah yes, i will digg up my example. Shouldn't take too long. --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 02:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Got it. Replace TVep with this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:TheDJ/SandboxTemplate&oldid=117676245 and then you can substitute all the template cases. (I have to admit, it's a pain to figure out :D ) --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 03:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your RFA

Beat the 'crat congrats...! The Rambling Man 19:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmph =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry Nichalp, couldn't resist!!! The Rambling Man 19:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You're a sysop!

Hi, ^demon, Congratulations on Becoming a Sysop!

Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on articles for deletion (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Wikipedia up to date.

Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list before you get started (although you should have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your powers. Also, please add Administrators' noticeboard to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Have fun! =Nichalp «Talk»=
 PS Please add you name to WP:LA!

Congrats, consensus has been reached and you've been given an early promotion. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulamations :P Martinp23 19:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations on the succesful RfA, Chad. All the best. :-) - Anas talk? 19:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on your new mop! — xaosflux Talk 19:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
    Congratulations on your new mop! — xaosflux Talk 19:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yep, congrats. Let me know if you have any questions! Prodego talk 19:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!!! Well done. Go grab yer mop and bucket - Alison 19:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Cbrown1023 talk 20:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on your new and shiny mop and bucket! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 20:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Hey good luck with your new tools! Majorly (o rly?) 20:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: RfA Thanks

No problem, man. You deserve these tools, and I'm certain that you won't let the community down. Congrats on becoming an admin, and happy editing! // DecaimientoPoético 20:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, there aren't many AOR's. Well done. Xiner (talk, email) 20:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Congrats on your new Big Red Buttons! I trust you won't explode the Wiki; in fact, I can only envision you making it better. Happy editing. PMC 19:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Just thought I'd swing by to say congratulations on becoming a sysop! Kntrabssi 20:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! -- Avi 21:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Cheers!
Cheers!
No problems mate, you've worked hard and displayed all the behavior that a good admin should. Cheers! Dfrg.msc 21:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "RFA Thanks"

Are you just substituting that message? I've seen it on innumerable talk pages now.  ~Steptrip 22:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if he was substituting the message. A lot of people do that to save time. // DecaimientoPoético 23:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, just wanted to make sure he / she wasn't spamming or anything (like an admin would, but you never know ...).  ~Steptrip 23:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, those 'personalized' responses have been popular forever. Well at least since 15:26, 23 September 2005, when I made my first edit :). Prodego talk 23:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations! (and I don't mind 'personalised' message :) ) – Riana talk 02:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rejected mediation

I'm the user who chose not to participate in Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/List of male performers in gay porn films. The {{RFMF}} tag is still on the Talk:List of male performers in gay porn films page. I don't know what the procedure is in these cases, but I doubt it would be a good thing for me to remove the tag. I think it should be removed; I don't know if that's something you should do. Perhaps something along the lines of the "request for mediation not accepted" message box should be added to the talk page instead. Thanks.Chidom talk  03:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm sure if you look around, you'll find that I rarely hesitate to be bold; however, there's enough heated debate on the page without there being added friction because I deleted the tag after having caused the mediation to be rejected.... Maybe I've been unduly influenced by Sarbanes-Oxley?
And my deepest sympathies—if you ever need to talk... um, oh, wait! My unrestrained congratulations on your new status and tools! Have good days.Chidom talk  04:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mediation-l

Are you a list administrator (or, incidentally with Essjay retired, do we have a list admin)? If so, can you please swap my subscription to my new email address, per the email I sent to you two days ago. Cheers, Daniel Bryant 09:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why to hang on

This is a growing page which will have many users within a few days. Please hold for a week.

[edit] Mediation Committee

Hi.

I note you are the current Chairman of the Mediation Committee (my sympathies). I used to be a member of this committee (although I actually did very little work, for a variety of reasons), before joining the AC about 15 months ago. If I were to rejoin the MC, what would be the process? Is it as simple as moving myself from section to section? Perhaps you could give me an introduction into current procedure, since I haven't been involved in a good 18 months...

Many thanks,

Sam Korn (smoddy) 21:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello Sam Korn. You are still a member of the committee. You are simply considered an emeritus, or inactive. You can become active again whenever you like. Just move yourself from WP:MC#Mediators_Emeriti to WP:MC#Active_Mediators. Welcome back!  : ) Armed Blowfish (talk|mail) 02:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)