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I confirm that I am also Commons:User:Xaosflux. — xaosflux Talk 02:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

An addict has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Oh, and I took your suggestion for improving on Image:Cvutan.png. Here's the new version. :)
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

And because of this, I would strongly suggest you update that picture in that Toolbox up there. Because I don't wanna just modify someone else's stuff, especially if they're an admin. --Addict 2006 02:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MediationBot

The MediationBot, is a major aspect of our case management, and without it, we must do it all manually. As chair of the committee, I formally request the block be overturned.

On behalf of the Mediation Committee, ^demon[omg plz] 14:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
We're currently running the new bot on Martinp23's toolserver account. He opened up User:MediationBot1, as the primary bot was blocked. Pending the new bot's approval (which has no reason why it shouldn't), I'm wanting to continue to run it on the old username. ^demon[omg plz] 01:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for closing out that MfD that I speedied ... I was closing out a long ArbCom case tonight when I saw it pop up on my watchlist, and got distracted from finishing out the close. Regards, Newyorkbrad 02:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks for dealing with noob101

I would like to thank you for fixing the vandalism to my user page/talk page, and for dealing with Noob101. I am glad that there are people like you out there to fix things like this. PS: while on the subject of Noob101, He made a category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_who_are_failures and there is still another user in that category Eskimo14 Noob101 also appears to have vandalised their page, and pasted some text from my user page onto Eskimo14's.

Anyways.. Thankyou again, Mootoog 02:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: Thankyou for deleting Category:Wikipedians_who_are_failures. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mootoog (talk • contribs).

[edit] Re: ArbCom talk

Thanks for letting me know. I don't think we are in the process of doing so, but I will point out your request on the ArbCom mailing list so that others are aware, and if we do decide to do something. Thanks again. Flcelloguy (A note?) 03:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Page Deletion

Thank you. I did not know that we had to tag articles in a userspace with {{db-author}}, but thank you nonetheless for deleting them.  ~Steptrip 13:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] About the image Image:Gba hamepane.jpg

I would like to see this image, but I think I know what image tag it needs. I looked at the user's talk page who uploaded it, and it seems he doesn't know that much about uploading image. Asking because the image is related to Tokyo Mew Mew, and I usually edit articles related to it. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 03:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


I would for you to also restore Image:DSC07809.JPG. This would be the first time I've asked anyone to restore an image to add an image tag, so I first wanted to make I did it right with Image:Gba hamepane.jpg. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 13:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot tagging

Thanks, but I'm 100% bot-free: I wouldn't know HOW to program/create/run one to begin with, considering the last time I did any programming I had to use punch cards. It's all Firefox tabs, pop-ups, copy-and-paste, and a list derived from the deletion log and run through some search-and-replace terms to create a list. I believe the technical term is "kludge".

See User:Calton/Testbed right now for a sample of the lists I use -- normally I don't save these in Wikipedia, just work out of Preview mode, but I thought you might need to see. Note that existing Talk pages, being in blue, pop right out. --Calton | Talk 02:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response

I have posted a response on my talk page. No further messages will be posted here. -- RM 12:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot approvals process

Just in case any of you haven't seen the new bot request to track the bot approvals process, this is just a reminder to use the correct templates at {{BAG Admin Tools}} so the bot can correctly identify the stage of bot approval. Also, the approved requests section has been moved to a separate page at Wikipedia:Bots/Approved bot requests for the Bureaucrats to watchlist. When approving a request, make sure you remove it from the main page and place it on that page so that a bureaucrat can flag it. Thanks. MetsBot 16:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is the flying spaghetti monster?

What is it?! DOTA fanatic 06:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protected

Any chance Commodity will be unprotected? It's been over a month... shouldn't it at least be downgraded to SEMIprotected? Mahalo. --Ali'i 19:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Pelican

This indef. blocked user has returned as Think Safety (talk • contribs), and is making all the same edits. I thought you should be made aware. Another user has tagged him as a sock. Thanks Yankees76 04:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re:Deletion request

Thanks for the help. The criteria is not just the striken ones. For the ones that have not been striken, the corresponding article in the sandbox must be checked to see if it is not part of any category and then deleted. For example, User:Ganeshbot/sandbox/Amroha. It has been de-categorized. It is complete and has just not been striken off the list. It would be great if those can be deleted too. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 04:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

That will be fine! -- Ganeshk (talk) 05:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Allahabad

I think that some sort of error occurred. I just noticed that a new article Allahabad was created, which I found odd as I had edited it several times. After looking at the deleted article I saw that you had deleted it based on Wikipedia:Bot requests#Deletion request and User:Ganeshbot/Not created. It looks as if it was the only article deleted and I restored it, so no harm done. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

That error occurred because the sandbox article had been redirected to the actual article and thus you deleted the actual article by mistake. I have deleted the redirected sandbox article. — Lost(talk) 00:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
No problems. Just one of things. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] High-speed editing

You are currently editing a a VERY HIGH rate of speed. This can cause flooding of watchlists and recent changes. To edit at this speed, you should use a flagged BOT account. Would you have another option for these bulk CSD nominations, such as creating a list?

Oh for the love of God. Look, the only "bots" -- as I've already told you -- I'm using are Firefox tabs and the CTL-V key, and I think Wikipedia can, somehow, survive 100 or so unambiguous deletion tags, give that CSD frequently jumps up to several hundred entries at a time, which it's nowhere to that level now. --Calton | Talk 01:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Look, as I've already explained, THERE IS NO LIST. There's only a list of ALL Talk pages generated from the Deletion log. A small sample, once again:

The way the orphaned talk pages are found is through the human eyeball -- unless you want to write some sort of script that finds them. Go to it, it'll save a lot of trouble, but until then, this is how I'm doing it.

As for my errors, that's five or so out of -- what? -- 1-2,000 that I've tagged. Considering that the error rate for the deleting admins -- who should have been deleting the pages to begin with instead of relying upon people like me to sweep up after them -- is closer to 1% to 5%, depending, perhaps your advice has higher priority targets. --Calton | Talk 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

...but instead of creating all of these edits, could you achieve the same affect by just posting all these links in a single page?
Fine idea, except for being completely unworkable. To see, take a look at the list above: I want you take it, reading it Edit mode, and extract ONLY the blue links onto a separate list. Now repeat that for a list of 5-10,000 items. Clicking a link in front of you? Much faster. --Calton | Talk 02:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Are you getting these off of the deletion log? Where you would see entries such as:
*2007-03-25T01:54:33 User:Betacommand (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "DF Army" (Deleting page per CSD A1: Empty article.)
And just picking all the blue links, going to that page, then editing that page?
You're not paying attention: NO, I am not simply going to Deletion log and hitting blue links, as a quick glance -- in Edit mode, as I told you -- at the list I pasted in above would show. Since you don't seem to want to hit that button, the text:
  • 18:41 11/27 Betacommand {{lit|Tobycrabel.jpg}} (speedy deletion under I7)
  • 18:41 11/27 Betacommand {{lit|Toby Publicity 4.jpg}} (speedy deletion under I7)
  • 18:41 11/27 Betacommand {{lit|Toby Lightman Publicity 3.jpg}} (speedy deletion under I7
The Deletion log, note, does NOT -- let me repeat that, does NOT -- show whether any Talk pages of deleted pages exist. The list must be massaged first to insert the templates which reveal the orphaned Talk pages. --Calton | Talk 02:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
While of course you can't see if the links are valid or not in edit mode, are you placing these on-wiki to see the blue/red state?
Let me refresh your memory, from User_talk:Xaosflux#Bot_tagging above: ...normally I don't save these in Wikipedia, just work out of Preview mode, but I thought you might need to see. Note that existing Talk pages, being in blue, pop right out. --Calton | Talk 02:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
...and you are not error-checking the bluelinks. Don't insult me or my intelligence, please.
flooding? I'd say that that word does not man what you think it means.
And a making a series of 5,000-item pages that admins have to be explicitly pointed to each time? This is efficient how, exactly? --Calton | Talk 03:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
As for flooding, you are currently consuming about 75% of the recent "recent changes log" for image talk's.
Which tells me that a) if you define your boundaries narrowly enough you can claim any superlative you like; b) Image Talk pages don't get a lot of traffic if what I'm doing "floods" the logs; and c) you don't like reading edit summaries, since every single one (okay, I missed a couple) of them has the same edit summary -- namely "{{db-talk}}" -- making them easy to pass over if you're using the human eyeball as your guide.
Don't like my methods? Write a bot to find these things and compile a list and/or get the deleting admins to remember to check for orphaned talk pages. I'm not making messes, I'm helping clean up after them. --Calton | Talk 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: CSD

Hi,

I just noticed that the category was populated after I tagged it for deletion (since it previously wasn't), and I was rechecking policy to see how to deal with that. In this specific case, I think that the creating user has misunderstood the role of each project, and is trying to replicate parts of the Commons here. Do you have any thoughts on categories in WP created exclusively for Commons material? TewfikTalk 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

In the case of Category:Maps of the Palestinian territories, I just forgot to recategorise an improperly labelled image, but it is indeed empty and should be deleted. TewfikTalk 01:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that changed. My understanding is that the categorisation of other categories isn't in and of itself a reason to maintain an otherwise empty category. As for the image, there is apparently now a content dispute, as someone has reverted my removal of the categorisation (in error, I believe). Perhaps at this point that issue needs to be worked out before the category is deleted. Still, I would appreciate if you could clarify on the Commons issue, since the user's rationale seems to be that since an image category exists on the Commons, it should also exist here, even if that means that it is only populated by other categories. I don't see the utility in creating multiple layers for a minimal number of images that should be on WP. It seems that the new strategy being used is to categorise images from the commons to populate these new categories (as in Category:Maps of the history of the Middle East). Let me know either way. TewfikTalk 02:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

That is fair. What of replicating Commons categorisation (and images) here? TewfikTalk 02:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. What do you think of this category. It seems that two of the images exist only on the Commons, and I don't see why the solitary image that is used on WP needs an image category and can't just be included a level higher. Am I off, or should the images be "untagged" and the third retagged? TewfikTalk 02:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Do you think you could delete the images and category? TewfikTalk 03:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to deal with the technical parts of this first so as to reduce the scope of any content dispute, and so I was hoping that you could deal with Category:Maps of Gaza Strip, since I followed the instructions you gave and transwikied. TewfikTalk 05:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commons media in English wikipedia categories

Commons media are for the use of all wikipedia sites worldwide. The English wikipedia pages for those commons media list the English wikipedia pages on which those commons media are used.

The commons page for a particular image does not list the English wikipedia pages on which that image is being used.

There are images in English wikipedia categories that would not be accepted in the commons. Gif images, fair use images, etc.. So the link to the commons category allows for more public-domain images to be used in English wikipedia pages.

The existence of the English wikipedia category allows for links to be made to the commons category of the same name. So English wikipedia editors then know of the additional commons media available to them. Those images are sometimes better, as explained previously. Oftentimes there is a larger selection of images at the commons.

The existence of the English wikipedia category also allows a logical location for links to the English wikipedia subcategories.

Not all commons images are suitable for placement in English wikipedia categories. Images captioned in other languages for example.

I put some of the English-language commons images in the English wikipedia categories. This saves editors time in finding images. Because they don't have to click many commons images to open them up and see what language is used on the image. --Timeshifter 08:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Also I would like to point out that another admin put the map he recently uploaded into this category:
Category:Maps of the Palestinian territories
There were subcategories linked there, too. Subcategories with both commons and wikipedia images. Also, there were links to the Atlas of Palestine, etc.. --Timeshifter 08:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Common's categories

Thanks for the info and link you left on my talk page. I replied on my talk page. --Timeshifter 18:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFA Thanks

I would like to thank you for your support in my recent RFA. As you may or may not be aware, it passed with approximately 99% support. I ensure you that I will use the tools well, and if I ever disappoint you, I am open to recall. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to leave me a note on my talkpage. Thanks again, ^demon[omg plz] 20:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome...

Er...that was odd. But it's the thought that counts, right? Haha. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 23:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotection

Three days after you unprotected my userpage, it was vandalized by some anon. vandal whom I reverted and warned. This leads me to ask this question: Can you re-semiprotect my userpage?  ~Steptrip 01:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

That'll probably make 'em mad!  ~Steptrip 01:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a little confused--I only see two times that your userpage has ever been vandalised, both from the same IP address, and they were within two minutes of each other over two weeks ago. Does semi-prot automatically extend to subpages, and the vandalism occurred on one of those, perhaps? Jouster  (whisper) 14:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Not that I'm answering for xaosflux or anything, I just want to get rid of any confusion, but (1) semi-protection does not extend to subpages without the "cascading" option enabled, and that option is never used with semi-prot. (2) If the vandalism appeared on one of my subpages, then it would show up on a diff in that subpage's history, not my userpage's history.  ~Steptrip 02:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
This protection is not cascading. This protection may not be strictly according to the protection policy but we are generally more lenient in the User: space. If you would like to contest it as a policy breach I will remove it, and Steptrip can relist on WP:RFPP if they desire. As this is only sprotection it should not prevent you from editing that page, do you know of an issue regarding an anon that wanted to make a good faith edit to the page but was not able to? FWIW, I'm pretty much opposed to indefinite rotection of pretty much anything, but have seen good editors get frustrated and leave due to vandalism. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 02:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I am, in general, against any protection not strictly justified by the circumstances and policy. As the original request for protection appears to be backed up by a factual error (that more than one incident of vandalism occurred, separated by "three days"), I don't feel (semi-)protection is valid here. Replying here is fine, I've added you to my watchlist. Jouster  (whisper) 20:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
As I said earlier if contested I'd expire that protection, and I have. Steptrip, if you feel you need your page protected again, please see WP:RFPP. If you are having issues with vandals on your page you can list them on WP:AIV where blocking may be more approriate. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 22:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, hopefully I won't have to make one of those requests at WP:RFPP (it would mean that my page had been vandalized ;P )  ~Steptrip 00:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About your recent protection of Fruits Basket:

While I, and I'm sure several other editors, do appreciate you protecting Fruits Basket, I think a full-protect might be a bit severe. It was only one new user, who's account isn't even a day old yet, and a few IPs causing any recent trouble on the page. A semi-protect might be a bit more appropriate. Thank you for your time, and happy editing! // DecaimientoPoético 01:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, if it's only for three days then I have no problem with it. The edits were simple vandalism (combining elements from Fruits Basket and another series, Rurouni Kenshin), but you can just leave it fully protected. Well, thanks again! // DecaimientoPoético 01:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sig cat

It's still April Fool's for another 5:27 here, but fine, whatever. --tjstrf talk 01:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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